We have a 4 month old and she is a high need baby that does not sleep as long as the avg baby. She takes 1-2 very short naps during the day. We have been taking her to bed with us around 9PM and getting her to sleep by about 10PM. After talking with lots of parents and reading about a "bedtime routine" we changed. We heard that babies her age should be going to sleep by 7:30-8:30PM. So we have tried this for the past week and it fails miserably. She is just not tired and when she is clearly tired, she just does not want to sleep unless we are there with her. Rarely we get her to sleep and can sneak off (naps and night time). She wakes within 30-45 minutes though.
Our nighttime routine is to change her, read a story, pray and sing a song. This takes about 15-20 minutes. Not once has this ever calmed her down actually. She seems just as alert and awake as before. I always have to nurse her to sleep after that too.
My questions are this: Do we really need to get her to sleep at 8ish PM for her well being or can she go to sleep later like we were doing? On the flip side, we like the idea of her going to sleep at 8PM though so we can have our time alone without her until 10PM. Do other API parents get their babies to sleep and then sneak off to have some quiet time before our bed time at around 10PM or do we just have to go to bed with her every night? My frustration is in not knowing if we are doing this right.
Our nighttime routine is to change her, read a story, pray and sing a song. This takes about 15-20 minutes. Not once has this ever calmed her down actually. She seems just as alert and awake as before. I always have to nurse her to sleep after that too.
My questions are this: Do we really need to get her to sleep at 8ish PM for her well being or can she go to sleep later like we were doing? On the flip side, we like the idea of her going to sleep at 8PM though so we can have our time alone without her until 10PM. Do other API parents get their babies to sleep and then sneak off to have some quiet time before our bed time at around 10PM or do we just have to go to bed with her every night? My frustration is in not knowing if we are doing this right.

) and then run back in when it's time or if she wakes earlier.
It sounds like you have a rhythm that works for you and your baby and everyone is comfortable. Nighttime routines can take a long time to "settle", so don't worry just yet if you're not where you want to be with it. We didn't even try to get into a regular nighttime routine until each of our kids were 4-6 months old, and even then it took months before we found our rhythm.
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